Censorship on Newsvine by malicious users

It was all the "clean, freshly bathed black man" stuff that was racist, Go, not the statements about Mrs. Obama being concerned for her husband's safety. As for that, you're half right. Mrs. Obama does have no more reason to be fearful than Laura Bush - she also has no less reason.

I didn't read it - it's politics - but I am reading this because it isn't. I assume she referred to "bathed" because Joe Biden had the gall to call the man "clean."

I assume she referred to "bathed" because Joe Biden had the gall to call the man "clean."

Yeah, I'm sure she did. But it's a bit of a jump to go from "articulate and clean" to "freshly bathed black man," especially with no explanation anywhere in the article.

Yeah, I'm sure she did. But it's a bit of a jump to go from "articulate and clean" to "freshly bathed black man," especially with no explanation anywhere in the article.

DM, most of us are not surrounded by nubile women in foreign lands ( well, not this week anyway ) so we got the Biden reference right away. You may have missed the drama then because of, you know, the women and the coffee.

At some point people have to reset and let go of the past - it may be that because of past articles or disagreements they are pulling the trigger on this kid a little too quickly. I try to ( and you do also ) take each article one at a time. I get people who consistently say pretty dumb, inflammatory things but I try to act like it's the first time and be patient.

Otherwise it's driving people away and we'll be left with one side of all arguments.

Personally i think that if you disagree with her "crap" you should eloquently rebut her and not quietly vote her down. I am still not sure if what you did wasnt a violation in it's own. as i see nothing that you could vote that would be correct. So you submitted something that was incorect to the staff.
Personally i ask the staff not to censor anything that doesnt violate the rules and to make it clear that mis reporting things wont be allowed. It would be much better if they simply label things contravercial, so that we get to decide to read or not. You can ignore GoReporter, but i dont like you making that choice for me. People will spend hours looking up material to rebutt her latest article and it shouldnt be up to you to remove their work. Sure this place IS private and Moderated, but that is too keep it from turning into a digg where people freely attack each other and offer no content of any value.

Please dont remove my choice to read or my hard work.

Some things:

1) I did not vote to remove the original article. I did not read it, and have no desire to after reading the author's misguided whining in this one. Way to assume things, though.

2) Articles being removed is not a common occurrance, as far as I know. There must have been something particularly absurd about this one to cause enough people (by Newsvine's standards) to vote for its removal.

3) If I really cared, I would vote this one as "inaccurate," because:

4) Censor *still* has nothing to do with what GoReporter says happened here, regardless of how many times you or she use the word. I won't report it, though, because:

5) Damn this whining is annoying.

The beauty of newvine is that we dont have just be feed the abusrd, we can respond to it and challenge it, label it as excrement . I think it is better to destroy the the offensive in the public forum than to hide it and pretend it doesnt exist.

There maybe a need for an offensive tag, and let those that can be offended by word to block it out. But i would rather have a man come on here supporting namble and have the ability to totally go off on him in comments than to have it hidden from me that people have that absurd extreme view.

I am more offended by the removal of offensive material than the material itself.
I live in a town where a man gave up millions of dollars so that he could pass out a newspaper saying slavery was a great thing. I will never read his crap as i cant respond to it, but i will fight anyone who trys to deny him the right to his point of view. I will fight racism but not him.

I am more offended by the removal of offensive material than the material itself.
I live in a town where a man gave up millions of dollars so that he could pass out a newspaper saying slavery was a great thing. I will never read his crap as i cant respond to it, but i will fight anyone who trys to deny him the right to his point of view. I will fight racism but not him.

The author of this column still has every right to spew whatever she wants. She has indicated in this column that she has blog where she posted the column. Nobody is taking away her right to be racist, or whatever the problem is. The users of this *private community* have spoken, however, and told her that her crap wasn't welcome here. Much like I assume your reaction would be if the racist newspaper man walked into your living room.

Her response was, rather than except the fact that she had been rejected, to instead question the integrity of the people who said they didn't want to read her crap. You want to read her mumblings? Great, visit her blog.

You've missed the point. When the community votes it down, you lose the right to decide whether you want to read it or not.

You know, I could swear I'd addressed this already. I just can't find the right words, how did it go? Hmmm, it's on the tip of my tongue ... oh yeah! I said:

You want to read her mumblings? Great, visit her blog.

I can't believe we're still talking about this. This. is. a. private. Internet. forum.

Her content was rejected. You don't like it? Well ... I'm sorry? Now that you know something a significant number of people are offended by won't be allowed here, are you not going to be returning?

And if having content deemed to be racist deleted means you can't read it, than you must also not be able to read content not posted here by people who have no idea Newsvine exists. This Web site is not a blog. It is not a coffee shop. It's not here to make random small talk, not in the medium of an article anyway.

One last reason this annoys me, then I'm done with this conversation. I'm sorry I'm repeating myself so much, so instead I'll repeat Paul William Tenny from the first comment thread:

But this is just pointless. If you reported it, fine. I don't see the point in wasting valuable article space with flotsam like this.

actually this seems like a pretty public internet forum. Private, to me, infrers an invite only type of thing. Anyone can sign up here, anyone can post articles (even really really offensive ones) if they want.

If they aren't unlawful then what You should do, since you don't want to read her crap, is choose to "IGNORE THIS AUTHOR" that lets you keep your choice to NOT read her crap unless you go to her blog, and lets others who may be in the mood for a good (or bad) comment war get it on.

See that way you get what you want ( you don't have to read her crap) and others get what they want - instead of a few limiting what others read within a forum we all have a stake in - we each get to read what we want.

no matter how many times you say it is a private forum, and no matter how many times you say go to her blog, it doesn't change the fact that you are flat out wrong in saying she shouldn't be able to post her tripe here. Some people, for some reason, like reading her tripe. Oddly, you do to or else you wouldn't keep going to her articles and commenting. You wouldn't bother to "report her" instead, like a rational person, you would just ignore her.

Go figure. Everyone can be happy if you would just take care of your self instead of trying to police the site and protect us all for GoReporter.

you keep saying private as if this place is yours and not ours.
I still want to know what you clicked to vote to have it removed
You still havent responded to that. Did you misuse the system by misreporting this article?

If this were a "private internet forum", I wouldn't be here.

It's private because the people that run this site can decide if they don't want you here. Ask Koozebane.

If it were public, you and I would have a say in policy. As it is, we really don't. If you don't like it, either e-mail Newsvine or don't come here. But all this whining and the false claims of censorship are ridiculous.

I knew what you meant.

Your "false claims of censorship" characterization seems inaccurate to me. The Newsvine crew restored the article, meaning that it did not violate policy. But if Newsvine readers are using the reporting mechanism with the intent of shutting down voices they don't like, that is censorship. It's not whining at all. The misuse of the report button is.

funny the muslim and jewish hate never gets deleted off the vine, no matter how offensive some of us thinks it is.
I think circumcisiion is offensive.
tell you what can you please exactly define the word offensive for me, so i know when to reconise that something my offend you?

Well put Joules. I can't believe I'm agreeing with you :)

I saw an article earlier about a man ejaculating on an old ladies clothing.
another on the same day about a cop using his ejaculation as a warning ticket.
If that isnt offensive I am not sure what is.

An intelligent new voice has joined our community! Welcome!

And as long as I remain ignorant on that subject, I prefer to believe that articles get stolen by Leprechauns. Incidentally, even further, I hope the Irish are not offended by my fallacy.)

Being Irish, I've marked this comment as inflammatory.

:)